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London Blasts: Media Review
DAY
46: 22 August 2005
Contents
Repression - Public Support High
Islam - Panorama Programme (First Note)
REPRESSION - PUBLIC SUPPORT HIGH
GUARDIAN POLL: CIVIL LIBERTIES SHOULD
BE ERODED FOR SECURITY
Today the Guardian
reports the results of a poll by ICM (with 1,006 respondents),
showing that,
'Almost three-quarters of the public
believe that it is right to give up civil liberties to
improve our security against terrorist attacks.'
Only 17 per cent of respondents rejected
this suggestion outright.
The results were fairly uniform across
the mainstream political spectrum: 'Tories were readier
to sacrifice civil liberties than Labour and Lib Dem supporters:
79% were willing to do so, compared with 72% of Labour voters
and 70% of Lib Dems.' This is a spread of only 9 percentage
points across mainstream politics.
The Guardian suggested that, 'The results
provide evidence of public support for Tony Blair's anti-terrorist
reforms which he unveiled before leaving on his summer holiday
earlier this month.' The poll asked about specific proposals
that have been put forward:
'Asked for their view on the deportation
of foreign nationals who spread radical Islamist views,
even if they were returned to countries which use torture,
62% of respondents were in favour. Only 19% were opposed.
But Mr Blair could still face controversy when he attempts
to implement the policy, given that judges may find such
a policy breaches the Human Rights Act.'
'The prime minister has said he will
amend the act if necessary, but a sizable minority of
the public want to protect the independence of the courts.
While 52% agreed that judges should not be able to overturn
government measures, since they had been agreed by parliament,
40% chose the opposing statement: "Judges should
protect our civil liberty and continue to overturn anti-terrorist
measures if they feel it is right to do so." '
'There was also ambivalence about
banning non-violent groups which promoted radical Islamist
views: 45% were in favour but 31% against.'
'Interviewees also backed a controversial
call from the Association of Chief Police Officers for
new powers to hold terror suspects for three months without
charge, rather than 14 days as at present. Only 19% opposed
the move while 68% supported it.'
The poll was held between 12 and 14
August, before the last week's revelations about the death
of Jean Charles de Menezes, and alleged police cover-up.
It is not clear how these events will have affected public
attitudes.
AT A GLANCE
Police should be able to hold
terror suspects for three months without charge?
Yes 68% No 19% Don't Know 13%
Deport foreign nationals who
spread 'radical Islamist views' even to torture states?
Yes 62% No 19% Don't Know 19%
Judges should not be able to
overturn government measures when they feel civil liberties
are at risk?
Yes 52% No 40% Don't Know 8%
Ban 'radical Islamist groups'
even if they don't advocate violence?
Yes 45% No 31% Don't Know 24%
THE TIMES POLL
As we noted back on 12 July, The
Times reported the results of a similar poll conducted
by Populus (with 1,005 respondents) also showing overwhelming
support for new police powers:
'A large majority supported measures
to reduce the threat of any future terrorist attacks.
Nearly nine out of ten favoured giving the police new
powers to arrest people they suspect of planning terrorist
acts (86 per cent), tighter controls on who comes into
the country (88 per cent) and security check and baggage
inspections at stations (89 per cent).'
'More than two thirds of the public
(70 per cent) backed an increase in police powers to stop
and search people on the street, while three fifths (61
per cent) said that they supported the introduction of
ID cards... Those living the furthest away from London
were the strongest supporters of tough action.While 95
per cent of Scots support security checks and baggage
inspections at stations, 84 per cent in London and the
South East back this measure.'
'Working-class respondents were stronger
supporters than the middle classes of giving the police
new powers. While 93 per cent of unskilled workers wanted
the police to have new powers to arrest people suspected
of planning terrorist acts, 79 per cent of professionals
and managers did so.'
Interestingly, the poll 'highlighted
stark divisions in attitudes between people living in London
and the South East, and those in the rest of the country.
The further away from London respondents lived, the stronger
their support for tough new measures.' (There was apparently
a similar phenomenon in the United States after 11 September
2001, where the further people were from New York, the more
angry they seemed to be towards the perpetrators.)
OUR POSITION
The human rights group Liberty responded
to the poll thus:
'Obviously these figures do give
cause for concern. However, we believe that as people
realise that there is not a strict balance between civil
liberties and security, but rather that we as a society
are safer if we stand in defence of our basic values,
then they will understand that measures which may seem
superficially attractive are in fact counter-productive.
We believe that if the population has time to consider
these proposals they will support measures which are appropriate
and not just adopt kneejerk laws.'
Civil liberties have lost majority
support.
That is just a fact which must be digested
by those with a concern for freedom. Arguments that begin
and end with civil liberties principles will not gain support
amongst most people. We must design our arguments to begin
with people's concerns and interests, and lead into the
value of civil liberties.
ISLAM
PANORAMA PROGRAMME - FIRST NOTE
Last night, BBC television's flagship
current affairs programme, Panorama, carried an investigation
into the Muslim community in the wake of the London bombings.
(The full text of the programme is here.)
The reaction of Muslims on the Panorama
comments page is largely one of hurt and anger. Some
are bewildered by the programme's focus on the Muslim Council
of Britain:
'I am annoyed at the fact that the
current view is that the Muslim Council of Britain is
the view of all Muslims, and that they represent all Muslims.
This is not true and causes distress in the Muslim community.
They are a group like any other and only represent a secular
amount of Muslims.'
In essence, the programme sought to
demonstrate the pervasive nature of 'extremism' in the British
Muslim community, and in the Muslim Council of Britain in
particular. 'Extremism' is a slippery concept, and here
included the notion of religious superiority/supremacy.
As Madeleine
Bunting points out in the Guardian today, this is not
an uncommon trait in believers, whatever the faith.
Rather than trying to explain to non-Muslims
how the suicide bombings could have come about, the programme
was based on challenging Muslim 'leaders' to disavow or
stamp out extremism. In present circumstances, this approach
does nothing to increase public security. As the Home Office/Foreign
Office report Young
Muslims and Extremism concluded,
'The government must make a more
concerted effort to persuade the Muslim community that
it is trusted and respected. That requires a change of
language. Public challenges
to Muslims to decide where their loyalties lie are counterproductive.'
As we've noted before, this could equally
well be applied to the British meida.
The report also noted that, 'Some young
Muslims are disillusioned with mainstream Muslim organisations
that are perceived as pedestrian, ineffective and in many
cases, as "sell-outs" to HMG.' Prime amongst these
is the Muslim Council of Britain.
We hope to come back to a longer analysis
of this programme later in the week.
JNV welcomes feedback.
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